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Bob <BR> <BR>You and Ron call me an atheist among other names. I don't promote any other religious faith/philosophy/belief system. I DO promote the study of the historical context/beliefs that the Bible came from. You deny, deny, deny the facts, then think you are a winner somehow by reverting to <i>ad hominems</i> by throwing atheist, old & senile, etc around instead of making a valid point. <BR> <BR>If Ryan were to deem me a detriment to the board he is welcome to delete me from the system. <BR> <BR>I think, from the FACTS, that you constantly violate the first 5 rules he recently posted so I'm not sure what you are gaining here by pointing out the splinter in someone else's eye. <BR> <BR>As a former SDA with a retired minister FIL, BIL chaplain, a relative who was a former provost of Andrews, etc AND as someone that has, unlike you, actually READ THE BIBLE some people here feel that I do contribute to the breadth and depth of the discussions. <BR> <BR>For the last year or so I rarely have more than enough time to respond to your trivial cut & paste jobs here (see rule #4).
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Ryan?? <BR> <BR>Neal has supplied his own info about being asked to come back to .com for creating chaos. It's your call.
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Sometimes its better just to throw the squeaky wheel in the trash heap.
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<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Maggie <BR> <BR>I was able to finish the youtube series with Hitchens, et al. <BR> <BR>A great conversation between great minds/thinkers. <BR> <BR>Thanks again for the link. <BR> <BR>I am looking forward to the results of the research Harris is working on. Could be very enlightening. <BR> <BR>One point that Dennett made about the dissemination of truth not necessarily being a good idea in all cases... I personally feel that there is a difference in withholding the sequencing of a deadly virus and being silent when a known falsehood is propagated by dogmatists. I am firmly in line with the opinion of Dawkins and Hitchens on that score. <BR> <BR>They spoke about Victor Stenger's book at length. I went to a small gathering last summer where he spoke about various topics. I like his style and thought processes very much. He lives in Boulder and shows up from time to time at public events in town. If you get a chance read his God: A Failed Hypothesis. <BR> <BR>Later....<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>If this isn't promoting another philosophy, what is. No wonder Maggie was so petrified. I saw no sign of Neal trying to calm her down, if anything, it goes along with atheistic thought, "How can you love such a God????" <BR> <BR>Yoor call.
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I am leaving, Bob. No worries. <BR> <BR>I wish you well.
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Maggie <BR> <BR>The lunch offer stands....
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<font color="0000ff">If this isn't promoting another philosophy, what is.</font> <BR> <BR>Could you please point out where the philosophy part is? <BR> <BR>The name of a book? <BR> <BR>I also went to see Steve Forbes a couple of months ago. So what. I read Forbes and like his flat tax idea so its promoting another philosophy (non-communism)? <BR> <BR>Come back with something that is meaningful to us.
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<font color="0000ff">I am leaving, Bob. No worries.</font> <BR> <BR>I'm thinking of doing the same. <BR> <BR>Bob, I'll let you know so you can go crow to whoever it is you crow to in Wildwood.
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Everyone: <BR> <BR>I closed the thread since it has continued to stray off topic. <BR> <BR>I have personally communicated with Bob about the concerns some of you have about him. Nevertheless, the bickering and goading is coming from more than Bob, though I do believe he is the cause of it in this thread (please refer to the Edit below). With that said publicly, I expect a little bickering here and there, but not to the extent that I found on this thread. This is just silly and immature. <BR> <BR>Bob: Please lay off the agression. <BR>Maggie, Neal: Please ignore Bob. <BR> <BR>Pretty simple. <BR> <BR>I am off to class. I will check back in an hour or so and see how things are. The first temporary ban may occur then. <BR> <BR>If you have questions, e-mail me. I hope all of us can get along well enough so that we can have intelligent dialogue. <BR> <BR>Edit: I see now that Bob was not the sole cause of the firstorm that erupted in this thread. Maggie, Elaine: As far as I'm concerned, you two began the bickering (we've been using this word a lot). Bob's first post in this thread at least had something to do with Adventism. I recognize that Bob had no problem jumping at your bait and then getting Neal involved, but all of you need to line up your maturity with your ages. <BR> <BR>Ryan <BR> <BR>(Message edited by admin on February 23, 2009) <BR> <BR>(Message edited by admin on February 23, 2009)
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