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#1 02-27-09 4:01 am

bob_2
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Are We a Nation of Coward???

I along with Pat Buchanan and I&#39;m sure plenty other Americans, offended by Attorney General Holder&#39;s remarks about America being a country of cowards because we won&#39;t talk about race.  <BR> <BR>I live in St. Louis. Urban sprawl is rampant and wahy? Because as an example, a white architect was gunned down in front of his wife and child, because they wanted to live in the city, irrespective of the dangers.  <BR> <BR>Not all Americas feel that way. Some of you may have preconceived ideas of Pat Buchanan but read his article on this and I will give an excerpt:  <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30825" target=_top>http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30825</a> <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>One point Holder did allude to, without specifics, was this:  <BR>  <BR> <BR>&#34;It is not safe for this nation to assume that the unaddressed social problems in the poorest parts of the country can be isolated and will not ultimately affect the larger society.&#34;  <BR> <BR>Fair point. And what are some of those social problems?  <BR> <BR>A 70 percent illegitimacy rate in black America, an incarceration and crime rate seven times that of white America, a 50 percent dropout rate in many urban high schools, African-American graduates reading and computing on average at eighth-grade levels.  <BR> <BR>And about these problems what is the black leadership doing?  <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

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#2 03-07-09 9:58 pm

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Re: Are We a Nation of Coward???

<b><font color="0000ff">Attorney General Chided for Language on Race </font></b> <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>President Obama has chided his attorney general, Eric H. Holder Jr., for describing America as a “nation of cowards” when discussing race, wading into a tumult that flared over Mr. Holder’s indictment of the way this country talks about ethnicity. <BR> <BR>“I think it’s fair to say that if I had been advising my attorney general, we would have used different language,” Mr. Obama said in a mild rebuke from America’s first black president to its first black attorney general. <BR> <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us/politics/08race.html?_r=1" target=_top>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us/politics/08ra ce.html?_r=1</a> <BR> <BR>Well Obama showing a little guts.

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#3 03-07-09 11:29 pm

neal
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Re: Are We a Nation of Coward???

<font color="0000ff">I along with Pat Buchanan and I&#39;m sure plenty other Americans</font> <BR> <BR>I thought you were Canadian.

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#4 03-07-09 11:59 pm

bob_2
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Re: Are We a Nation of Coward???

Can&#39;t Pat Buchanan and other Americans be and I be a Canadian, Neal? Aren&#39;t we getting a little petty???

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#5 03-08-09 7:15 am

neal
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Re: Are We a Nation of Coward???

Petty?  You work in one of the most highly subsidized industries in the USA yet have the nerve to populate this forum with anti-tax, anti-subsidy rhetoric while quoting right-wing mouthpieces. <BR> <BR>On top of that, you seem to continually leave out the fact that you are not American while claiming terms for yourself which would mislead the casual reader to assume that you are. <BR> <BR>You post more political comments here and start more political threads than we Americans do.  I am certain that Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud pays a ton more taxes here than you do yet we &#40;us Americans&#41; don&#39;t care about his political opinions either.

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#6 03-08-09 7:54 am

neal
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Re: Are We a Nation of Coward???

From your Pat quote:<blockquote>A 70 percent illegitimacy rate in black America, an incarceration and crime rate seven times that of white America, a 50 percent dropout rate in many urban high schools, African-American graduates reading and computing on average at eighth-grade levels.</blockquote> <BR> <BR>He seems to have left out the part about them also having the highest church attendance and the highest belief in God.

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#7 03-08-09 9:28 am

bob_2
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Re: Are We a Nation of Coward???

Proof that church attendance alone won&#39;t pass the math test and mom needs to watch who junior is kissing on the back stoop. eh???

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#8 03-08-09 7:27 pm

neal
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Re: Are We a Nation of Coward???

<font color="0000ff">Proof that church attendance alone won&#39;t pass the math test and mom needs to watch who junior is kissing on the back stoop. eh???</font> <BR> <BR>No.  Seems to mean that the more often you go to church the poorer your decision making processes are. <BR> <BR>Crime and ignorance are highly correlated to voluntary church attendance.

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